Communities, beware of owner

Rules, live by your own …

Recent events of hypocrisy and dishonesty from one community owner has given me something to think about.

Communities don’t need or want certain sorts, yet they are run by those sorts, while trying to take the high road at the same time, as far as telling lies in order to do that, they are as fake as you like.

I was amazed at the level of bullying and lies that were going on, the fact they tripped over their own lies several times, in full view of the community, then realising it and deleting their own lies just made me annoyed, enough to let them know by ranting.

I had to take a break from all this online crap for a few days because it was sickening… it made me angry, it made me angrier knowing that those using the site are really unaware of just who they are supporting.

This asshole is the problem. This asshole will be the downfall of the community. two faced liars will never prosper well, they get found out sooner than later, more so when they are so thick they can’t see how they screwed up, like dogs, they think everyone is only as clever / stupid as they are.

I would only use that site again on one condition …

Under a new owner. 😉

To that end all links from here to that community are gone, the people I like and get on with well from there have their own sites and blogs, so I am not missing them, nor them me.

For me, I feel that community site has massive potential but not while being run by the current owner, who is the real problem there, only a few people know and realise that at the moment, the rest will soon find out and agree. 😉

The fact the owner insults it’s own members in several ways, on several different places is enough to make anyone stop and think about it, if they choose to see it. The fact the owner has spouted some terrible lies about several things ON the community site itself is something everyone there should have noticed by now.

The best thing that could happen is for the power to be taken OUT of their hands, a new owner, or several owners would be the way forward and it would also grow the site in a much better and faster way, the quality would raise if done right.

I had lots of good ideas for the place but I bided my time because I KNEW something was not right, well over a month ago I started to realise that they were not all as they seem – I needed to bide my time and wait till their true colours come out and boy did they come out.

So, now I am glad I kept it to myself, glad I never got to involved with their little games, because I always had doubts, I always knew there was an ulterior motive, agenda and had ideas on what they were from the start, I was right too.

Those of you on the site, I tell you know hand on heart, that idiot is a liar, a fake and he is USING you all, in a not-so-nice-way in reality, while hiding under the persona he portrays to you all … don’t fall for that shit.

He attacks his own members behind closed doors, a few times he did it on the site itself, attacking them for using other communities similar, which itself stinks, he attacks some for reading certain blogs he don’t like… what the fuck it has to do with him is beyond me.

This is not the first time I have seem them shit on someone, this is not the first time he has been found out to be the manipulative bully-boy idiot that he really is and then shown up for it.

He always bleats about having no friends, wonder why that is?

He always bleats that everyone else is lower than him, that he is superior … which, I beg to differ. The only thing he is superior to is a rat, even then … only just. 😆

He needs a mirror, maybe he can get one of his “fake friends” to sort him out with one. He seems to miss the fact the real problem is himself, maybe it’s just they are in denial.

I am done with that crap, not being told what I can and can’t use, read, interact with, who to call a friend.

For me, the biggest lesson is, that these places you don’t own, they are in some ways a waste of time using. Anything put into it can be dismissed with a click of a button.

So, you will see me less on community places and more on my own sites, it is better be active on blogs and such anyway, you are connecting with people at source, maybe it’s more effort but it’s sure worth it. 😉

Use community sites and social networking sites by all means, just don’t forget it can vanish anytime. But never forget you can tell an awful lot by the owner, their true colours will always slip out from time to time, just be aware of it and you see it.

Dishonesty never pays …

Over to you … 😉

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41 Responses to Communities, beware of owner

  1. wendels says:

    Even though I don’t know what community this is referring to, I hear you 😉

    Over the years I have left several communities because they were poorly moderated and managed.

  2. wendels says:

    I am sure I could find it. Sure do understand why you wouldn’t want to link to them… It’s just that I came across this particular post – and didn’t have the time to really look around that long. In the end I spent way much more time here than I first thought i would! 😉

  3. Jason
    Twitter: kaiserthesage
    says:

    I’ve read the entry twice, actually the second time was just a scan, but still failed to see the HINT. Now I wonder what community it is. Regarding the last part – “getting busy with your own sites” – it kind of gave me an idea or a realization with SEO, something about long term links. Hmm, will write about that someday 🙂

    Regards,
    Jason

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi Jason…

      http://robsellen.com/bloggerluv-home-of-bloggers/ the hint is there now! 🙂

      Seriously though, that place would be better if it was run by someone else…

      The bloke is an asshole, a bully, and he is a backstabbing two faced hypocrite.
      Rob´s last blog post ..Baby fed vultures- fat ladies feeding seagulls WTF!

      • Jason
        Twitter: kaiserthesage
        says:

        Good thing I wasn’t that active on that community 🙂 I though the owner was planning to sell the site? I remember reading that on Gail’s blog. Actually, he’s a snob, I didn’t really mind that at first, I think I followed and unfollowed him more than 5 times on twitter LOL.

        Anyway, at least he gave us a lesson about community building, to be not an ass 😀
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        • Rob
          Twitter: robsellen
          says:

          Hey Jason… do me a favour, could you leave a comment on some post on here and without ANY keyword in your keyword field… thanks, just want to see if its your “seo” that makes it go to the pending folder… or spam folder. 🙂

          That bloke is an asshole mate, he is insulting women ion twitter, while preaching the opposite on the site…

          These people need to WAKE up and small the coffee, then dump him… if not, they can’t complain when the shit really hits the fan, or when he bashed them…

          • Jason
            Twitter: kaiserthesage
            says:

            Here man, hope it works 🙂

            I peeked his personal website last night “potpol”, seeing from his words from his most recent post, I can tell he really is a bully, or perhaps I just misunderstood the message…. nah! LOL.

            What an awful man. He surely knows how to act right on the web.
            Jason´s last blog post ..SEO Strategies

            • Rob
              Twitter: robsellen
              says:

              Bloody thing, went to the spam folder again!! *Sigh

              Something not right, askimet needs to sort it out.

              He is a bully, always was I expect, always will be.

        • Kissie
          Twitter: JustKissie
          says:

          Excellent point, Jason!
          Kissie´s last blog post ..Monday’s Email

  4. Rose says:

    Hello Rob, I’m sorry that you have had an unpleasant experience with Bloggerluv. I noticed that many of the members that came from Bloggerluv were members of BlogEngage. The other day John sent me a tweet that read “You can write up a post about your site community whatever and I will add it to the blog on #BloggerLUV if you want :)”

    I have declined to do so.

    I noticed via his jsinkeywest account he over promotes Bloggerluv and that really isn’t the way to build followers.
    Rose´s last blog post ..How to write titles for your blog posts

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi Rose,

      Not so much a bad experience with the place itself, just the owner spouting lies and bullying… he is a hypocrite, doing the very thing he preaches he won’t have there… dissing women, I KNOW for a fact he has lied, threatened, and bashed people behind their backs, he is now acting like he did no wrong, that is a sure sign he has no idea what he has done or thinks that’s acceptable.

      That’s because he wants people writing and linking to him, yet he then says people don’t support him, what a crock of shit. I removed every link on here to that place, until it gets a new owner I ain’t using it again.

      I know he will slip up again soon, bound to when he isn’t aware of what he does, what lies he has yet to trip over… 😉

      He says he mas made very few friends, yet he blames that on everyone else… lol..

      When that happens, everyone will see it… 🙂

      He is a fake. 🙂

      The one thing I hate is dishonesty… no way back from that.

      Hey thanks for the comment, glad to see you here too. hope it’s not the last!? 😀
      Rob´s last blog post ..Attraction factor and Missy magic…

  5. Rose says:

    Didn’t he create Bloggerluv? I don’t see it getting a new owner unless he sells it.
    Rose´s last blog post ..How to write titles for your blog posts

  6. C5
    Twitter: ceefive
    says:

    Hi Rob, I wonder what lies you mean. I’m sorry it has not worked well with you. I don’t know what happened with you two. I wasn’t there perhaps when stuff were deleted. Lying is heavy. If I catch someone lying to me, it mars and I tend to back off. I will forgive, though, but will be extra careful.

  7. C5
    Twitter: ceefive
    says:

    I’m ok, quite busy offline. He lied to you or to everybody?
    C5@ Solutions, Ideas, Conclusions´s last blog post ..Party Games-Parlor Games- Catch The Dragon’s Tail Lessons Learned

  8. C5
    Twitter: ceefive
    says:

    I won’t blame you or anyone. I hope things work out. Everybody deserves a second chance especially when repentant.
    C5@Solutions, Ideas, Conclusions´s last blog post ..Hard Of Hearing vs Hard Of Listening

  9. Rose says:

    I just got a nasty tweet from him. He called me an old dried up jealous shank ho.
    Rose´s last blog post ..How to write titles for your blog posts

  10. Rob
    Twitter: robsellen
    says:

    So everyone gets the drift… look at this…

    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-_vG50Zy07k14_JrUaqkGBi2ujzAR0KiLLJNIMar2FY?feat=directlink

    Is that what people call a decent community owner?
    Rob´s last blog post ..Scammers … internet marketing syndicate

  11. faye
    Twitter: da_aya
    says:

    you cannot really please everyone..just choose a community where you are comfortable with..
    faye´s last blog post ..App Stores on the Rise

  12. Karen Cruz
    Twitter: ygndblog
    says:

    Hey Rob, I saw that tweet and that was so disgusting of him. I am at a loss of words. But at least I know the true colors. I am still going to write that post but I am having hell with my blog. I have multi-sites installed and it’s not acting right. Once I get it fixed I will post it.
    Karen Cruz@passioninwords´s last blog post ..Letter of Resignation

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Looking froward to seeing that. 😉

      I still think kathy should have posted hers back up, but I respect that she doesn’t want to do that…

      He is showing his true colours for all to see… lameass bully boy…

  13. Rose says:

    I recently blogged about it.
    Rose´s last blog post ..Cursing on Twitter

  14. Anne Bender
    Twitter: AnneOnline
    says:

    Wow! The site always ran too slow for me (thought it was me) and I would tend to forget to log on. In fact, it changed areas and I had to rejoin (you remember, since you were my first friend there). Guess I’m one of those oblivious people, sigh. No matter.

    I notice he uses colorful language and tends to insult (with a lol thrown in), but always took it with a grain of salt. I don’t know him or his personal issues and figure he may be struggling with something that causes the frustrated outbursts. Oh, well. I still get to follow your antics on Facebook (I think you’re my most active friend over there ha ha).
    Anne Bender´s last blog post ..Review- Fracture Me a Butterfly

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hey you,

      Hows things? 🙂

      That site has always been slow, never a good thing these days, imagine if we still had dial up, it would take 10 minutes 😆 … one thing about that when he changed it over, he didn’t say anything to everyone about it… just left the old one running.
      Thought that was odd.

      I am not so bothered by his language, nothing bothers me in that sense so much, only the fact he lies. He claims to be “real”, so if that’s right, maybe he should be that way if he is offline… 😉

      But he is dishonest, so that to me is the end of it… I don’t like dishonesty much and when it’s between supposed “friends” it’s worse.
      Who needs that? Not me… 😉

      Facebook? What’s that… 😆

      Nice to see you over here again. 🙂
      Rob´s last blog post ..Freelance work- a good foundation for making money online

    • Kissie
      Twitter: JustKissie
      says:

      I’m with Anne, I don’t pay any attention to that “extra” stuff.

      I can’t and will not let other people actions affect me in a negative way, they have the issues they have …. I don’t and I won’t take them on.

      I will say that even though I witnessed the whatever it was (disagreement) with Kieth and I even tried to mediate – to no avail, I still don’t get caught up in it too much. I used to think some of the tweets or whatever were directed towards me and then I reminded myself to not be so important. 😉

      I have REAL things going on in my life and I can only be Just Kissie. I have to live my life and be accountable only for the things I say and do and believe it when I tell you, I sincerely care about people and I watch what I invite to my life and my future. I watch by treating others right first.

      Rob, you handed it over to me and that’s my piece/peace. B-)
      Kissie´s last blog post ..Simple Operation

  15. Keith
    Twitter: kbloemendaal
    says:

    Well! I knew after my very public (on Twitter and blogs) battle with John that his arrogance would come back to bite him in the ass! Sorry it happened to you Rob, I know you have read his blogs for years and commented all over where he is.

    Something people like that don’t realize is that the OTHER people make the community, not the owner!

    Put it behind you and move on, it’s poison!
    Keith @Blog Tips´s last blog post ..Why You Should Search Trademarks Before Building A Site

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi Keith, good to see ya mate… leave my trademarks alone while you are here 😛 not that I have any… 😉

      I’m not sorry mate, I knew it could be likely someday considering how he goes about shit, I could see him for what he was for a while and I think he might have realised that 😉

      He will never realise that mate.

      I am over it, history. 😉
      Rob´s last blog post ..Email marketing- done right it’s a goldmine

  16. Rose says:

    It is set to expire on 25-Oct-2010 unless he renews.
    Rose´s last blog post ..Cursing on Twitter

  17. rob sellen
    Twitter: robsellen
    says:

    That doesn’t surprise me… he will no doubt renew it. 😉 At least now! 😆
    rob sellen@portland bill´s last blog post ..Portland Screensaver- unique!

  18. Rose says:

    Omg you should see his video to me. ROFL
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