Kajabi aka handing your business to Andy Jenkins on a plate

Kajabi!! OMG OMG… It’s live… yawn…

So what!

😆 what else to say?

Seriously!!

Ok, well, I’ll say now, yes, you are right, I haven’t used, it, seen it, so shouldn’t say anything, cos it’s just opinion… of course, I haven’t seen it nor used it, nor will I because…

I don’t care! 😉

But… knowing who is behind it and having read a few things that filled in the blanks for me…

As one put it, “it’s a glorified membership site” … ie, a platform for people to build a membership site, business on, or several depending on how much you are willing to waste on them. They host the lot. Sod that! 🙁

More importantly…

I gotta ask :- is anyone silly enough to hand over their data and site, business over to Andy Jenkins, with his record… ??

And pay him monthly to have it? Bloody well hope not, certainly not at them prices either. Plus they will no doubt bring out some fake scarcity crap too, which will panic many into paying up earlier, then they are suckered into building a site, business on someone like Jenkins server?! Crazy, don’t fall for that shit.

Even more so because…

When , not if, when you stop paying you LOSE it all? WTF?! No backing up of anything for you, just cancel and bosh, gone… oh you can bet your ass HE will have backed all your hard work up, for himself. 😉

But, try it, free!!

Two week trials, no thanks, two weeks work and then you think, not for me, bosh, oops, where did that two weeks work go?

Next thing you know, someone else is banging out what was your research, data, whatnot, but that’s not legal, ok, well, fiddle a little bit of this, that the other… who’s to know?

Maybe they won’t, maybe they are all gonna do a great job and whatever, I don’t know, but I don’t trust him, so all I have is my opinion, all I need isn’t it? 😉

I mean, this is nothing you can’t do in a different way for a lot less money, is it?

Maybe I’m wrong, often am, but I say the best thing is to NOT BOTHER… 😉

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24 Responses to Kajabi aka handing your business to Andy Jenkins on a plate

  1. lissie says:

    Are you saying that your whole site lives within their system? can you not move the hosting away if you get bored with paying – sounds like a scam to me…
    lissie´s last blog post ..Build My Rank Review Compared to Postrunner

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi Lissie,

      Yep, as far as I can tell that is exactly it.

      From what I read right under the cancel button it says, that “your files, site, everything will be deleted” and there seems to be NO back up process at all.

      That’s crap.

      Why would anyone be so dumb as to do that?

      Sounds like they will collect ALOT of data from peoples efforts… all them two week trials…
      While not even letting them keep that data…

      Fishy shit indeed…

      There are plenty of better ways to run your membership site and keeping your own stuff, to yourself.

      Why in the world would anyone in their right mind… let that lot have it?

      Beyond me.
      Rob´s last blog post ..Internet marketing syndicate vs robot- my money is on the robot!

  2. Joy says:

    Well, thanks.
    I signed up for the hajabi 2-week trial, and couldn’t get logged in. That sent up BIG red flags.
    Then, I was reading Erica.biz, saw Cosmic Connie’s comment, read a few posts on her blog, was led to Salty Droid, which led me here…
    So, cool. Thanks.
    I’ve canceled. Phew!

  3. Kevin says:

    Hi Rob,

    Kajabi seems like it would be great for delivering online courses and IMO that’s what the developers should have focused on and I’d much prefer a one time fee instead of the monthly payments (which doesn’t really matter to me since I’m not using it).

    This doesn’t look like the best solution (for me) for a membership site and is definitely not what I need to run my other e-commerce sites.

    Landing pages, sells pages, and thank you pages are easy enough to make or have made for you. Find some you like and use them as templates for later sites.

    Last but not least the whole hosting issue. It’s not prudent to host everything on Kajabi and frankly I don’t really trust AJ with having all my data.

    If people are interested in some products that have many features of Kajabi without the monthly fees check out OptimizePress and Easy video Player 2.

  4. Crystal Dixon says:

    I too was reading all the hype about Kajabi for the last few weeks and
    started to looked into it as well. I signed up for the 99/month trial.

    The idea seemed like it would be good for small timers, who need a step
    up from using something like Clickbank, or Aweber, but it would
    certainly be a step down or my business, in terms of what we are getting
    now.

    I think it’s okay if you need a content delivery system. But if you
    need anything forget it. They don’t even let you customize the single
    template you get.

    I’m using Software Projects now and with them I get unlimited products,
    a crm system, affiliate management, customer backoffice, lead manager,
    email marketing and customizations. They do one click upsells, oto’s
    and other cool things, but most important it just works 🙂 My account
    rep overthere is Rhonda W. If anyone wants to check them out.

    Cheers,
    Crystal Dixon

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi “Crystal”

      I deleted your link, sorry, but your first comment and you drop some link to something, no offence.
      I have to ask… WHY if your name is Crystal, your account name over there is Rhonda?

      Not installing any confidence in trusting you, in my view. 😉
      Rob´s last blog post ..No hope for spammers

      • Crystal says:

        Hi Rob,

        No problem, I understand. I was just trying to be helpful, by giving out the link to Software Projects, wasn’t an affiliate link or anything and no benefit to me, but no harm.

        To answer your question-If you read the comment again, you will see I said “My account rep over there is Rhonda” , not MY account name.

  5. sy
    Twitter: hospitalera
    says:

    I started, many years ago, out with was then called the ’30 days challenge’ and as helpful as it was in the beginning, every year things (and upsells!) got worse. This year they were promoting not only there own products, but are now also flocking the Kajabi horse. The product itself would have some merit if you could buy it for a one time off few and host your data yourself and run it from your own hosting account. Especially if you have a need for this kind of product and do already know what you are doing in the MMO world.
    Flogging this kind of program to newbies, even after having completed the challenge, they are still newbies imho (and biased towards a certain system to boot with), keeping all the data and not providing any export function for said data is just morally wrong in my opinion. Especially when combined with a monthly subscription fee, just my 2 adcents, SY
    sy@Hospitalera´s last blog post ..Fall Frenzy — The Fun has started

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      I agree Sy,

      Not to mention most newbies would never make enough to cover that monthly cost from their efforts. Some may, but I’ll bet it would take them a year or so to get there and that’s a years worth of fees to recoup before they are in any profit.

      I think it’s crap… bordering on a scam.
      Rob´s last blog post ..I’ll email you- that ok take a bribe

  6. Shane says:

    Definitely agree. Why pay someone to host for you and charge whatever they feel like while gathering all your data when you can use a normal host for a lot cheaper and keep your own ideas and benefit from your own work. This just stinks to high heaven. It’s hard to trust any of the “Internet Marketing Gurus” – I’ll stick to everyone telling me it’s hard work because that’s what my experience shows.
    Shane´s last blog post ..Online Writing- Passive Income- &amp Blogs to Read

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Seems not many are paying, hopefully all this fuss everywhere has stopped alot of money getting into these scammers pockets. 😉

      It’s hard to trust ANYone, let alone so called “gurberos” who are happy to fleece you with any lies you care to believe.

      The sooner these scammers are stopped the better.
      Rob´s last blog post ..Communities- beware of owner

  7. Mohul says:

    Hi Rob!

    I was actually searching for something like “Kajabi is shit” on Google, and just stumbled upon your blog.. FYI.. its on 9th position 🙂

    Guys who are launching such products and promoting it so vehemently, targeting those gullible innocent first time Internet Marketers, should be tried in court. Seriously!

    “Push Button Marketing” screams caption of such promotion.. what the heck! if marketing was just “push button”, anyone and everyone with 50 bucks a month could have become a rich Internet marketer.

    Can’t we devise a system wherein ONLY the honest and genuine educational products and tools can be provided to learners of IM industry? Isnt the sector still disorganized and prone to such scam product launches every now and then.

    I wish I can establish such kind of system…

    Whats your take, Rob?

    regards,
    Mohul

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Lol @ that search term 🙂

      9th… that’s not too bad, maybe it will go up too. 🙂

      I know what you mean, but the industry will right itself because there is nowhere for these people to hide. 😉

      The masses have to start thinking for themselves because you can’t rely on others to think for you. 😉
      Rob´s last blog post ..G.A.S.P 10.10.10 and no spam

  8. Paul says:

    Hi Rob,
    Got here using your posts on Salty’s site which I initially found several months ago due to his posts about James Arthur Ray.

    I’m not an internet marketer or anything like that, (well apart from hoping people click my adsense ads now and again :)) I’m just a bloke who likes building sites about keeping pets as a hobby.

    I say all this because I think the Syndicate and other so-called gurus would like everybody to believe that the followers of blogs like yours or Salty’s or Liz’s at the top, are just failed and bitter marketers, losers, as they like to put it. The idea that “normal” people might be simply outraged and criticize them because they are ripping people off left right and centre is beyond their reasoning because they don’t see the “profit” in it.

    Anyway keep up the great work 🙂

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      Hi Paul,

      Good to have you here. 🙂
      That James a ray is sick.

      The syndicate can think what they like, I don’t give a shit, I know people are smart enough to work it out for themselves, if not, then more fool them! 😉

      They are running scared though, too many of us know what a bunch of bastards they are. 🙂
      Rob´s last blog post ..Communities- beware of owner

  9. Steve
    Twitter: BrutusReport
    says:

    All the guru product launches get pushed to mail boxes these days gets to be a little crazy. I really haven’t come across any that I couldn’t live without.
    Steve @ Ohio State Football´s last blog post ..Ohio State routs Minnesota 52-10

  10. Matt says:

    well acording to me i think it’s okay if you need a content delivery system. But if you
    need anything forget it. They don’t even let you customize the single
    template you get

  11. Allan says:

    I completely agree. I am quite new to IM and I came across Kajabi during the time when I got my feet wet. At the time I signed up to numerous email lists to learn but after a very short while I started to feel dizzy because of the huge amount of emails I received and the sheer number of products that were offered to me. Mostly, though, I felt dizzy because of the extreme hype that some marketers were using. I agree with Mohul “targeting those gullible innocent first time Internet Marketers”. Making completely unsustainable claims about the ability of their products and charging exorbitant prices is at least borderline unethical in my opinion. These people give the industry a bad name and they make life more difficult for the rest of us. The principles of online business are the same as offline business: Create real value for your customers instead of just using smoke and mirrors.
    Allan@Nikon P7000 Review´s last blog post ..Nikon Coolpix P7000 Review

    • Rob
      Twitter: robsellen
      says:

      “Create real value for your customers instead of just using smoke and mirrors.”

      Good stuff… 😉

      The problem is, this smoke and mirrors shit seems to work for these idiots… until they get done for ripping people off at least… 😉

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